S3E7: From Wrong Seats to Rocket Fuel: How Two Leaders Found Their Perfect Roles | Jonathan Reynolds and Scott Seefeld

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S3E7: From Wrong Seats to Rocket Fuel: How Two Leaders Found Their Perfect Roles | Jonathan Reynolds and Scott Seefeld
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The story of this V/I Duo™ begins when Scott Seefeld hires Jonathan Reynolds to set up a new division for his firm, Titus. As the project evolves, Scott discovers Traction and realizes their roles need to shift—Jonathan was meant to serve as the Visionary, while Scott, the CEO, was better suited as the Integrator™. Together, they launch Titus Talent Strategies with the right leaders in the right seats from the start.

In this episode, Jonathan and Scott discuss the keys to maintaining a strong partnership, the value of regular alignment meetings, taking sabbaticals, and their multidimensional approach to employee engagement. 

Key Takeaways:

  • How beta tests and prototyping can help launch new processes and business ideas without negatively impacting the whole company.
  • The difference between having a warm body in a seat vs. having the right person in the right seat.
  • Why long same-page meetings once a month deliver more benefits than short weekly ones.

Some Questions Asked:

  • How long did it take you to transition into your Visionary/Integrator™ roles after realizing you were in the wrong seats?
  • How did you go on a one-month sabbatical and still feel like everything was under control?
  • What does healthy conflict look like between you two?

Embracing the Right Leadership Roles

The story of this V/I Duo™ begins when Scott Seefeld hires Jonathan Reynolds to set up a new division for his firm, Titus. As the project evolves, Scott discovers Traction and realizes their roles need to shift—Jonathan was meant to serve as the Visionary, while Scott, the CEO, was better suited as the Integrator™. Together, they launch Titus Talent Strategies with the right leaders in the right seats from the start.

In this episode, Jonathan and Scott discuss the keys to maintaining a strong partnership, the value of regular alignment meetings, taking sabbaticals, and their multidimensional approach to employee engagement. 

Prior to launching Titus Talent Strategies, Scott had already built and scaled multiple companies. However, for this venture, he saw Jonathan as the ideal fit for the Visionary role—a choice that, although unconventional, ultimately drove rapid growth.

[10:25] “It wouldn’t have become what it was without Scott. But also, I don’t think it would have become what it was without me. It was that joining combination that works well.”

This conversation sheds light on the challenges this V/I Duo™ faced, the value of aligning individual strengths, and how embracing change can lead to greater synergy and success. Jonathan and Scott’s journey is an inspiring example of transformation and holds invaluable insights for leaders looking to improve alignment and communication within their organizations.

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About The Rocket Fuel Podcast

Every outstanding entrepreneurial business has a common element that launched it to success. 

It has a Visionary who sees the big picture, envisions the future, and lives for challenge and risk. It also has an Integrator™, who works behind the scenes executing the business plan and doing the backbreaking work of making the Visionary’s dreams a reality. 

On their own, these two types of leaders have potential, but together they form an essential relationship that propels their business to new heights – we call that Rocket Fuel™. 

Join real and raw conversations with the world’s top entrepreneurial duos as they talk about their journey to getting more of what they want from their business. Hosted by Mark C. Winters, Visionary and co-author of Rocket Fuel. 

About Mark C. Winters

Mark C. Winters is an Expert EOS Implementer™, co-author of Rocket Fuel alongside Gino Wickman, and the Visionary of Rocket Fuel University™. Since age 28, Mark has started, bought, shut down, or sold 14 different companies. Today, he spends much of his time helping entrepreneurial leadership teams run on EOS®, and has delivered over almost 900 full-day sessions with companies around the United States. Mark’s talent for introducing the right combination of perspective and process sparks leadership teams to start moving, move faster, or begin moving in the right direction — with clarity.

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